Comments on: Daybreak, Part 1

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:09:37 +0000

I’m thinking that Daniel will show up at the end (it’s kind of like showing a gun in the first act – someone better get shot in the third act). His line was discontinued, but maybe a Daniel survived somewhere.

That he’s not Kara’s father is quite a bit disappointing, but that would make Starbuck the first hybrid, and make Hera just a little less special. I still have a vague notion that Starbuck IS Daniel (XY turned to XX during the genetic scramble), but I’m doubting that’s right either.

For now, I’m trusting Moore. He’s taken us this far….

By: GeekBoy

GeekBoy — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:20:46 +0000

Wow, that IS disappointing. Less so that it’s not the case, because after it wasn’t mentioned in the past two episodes, I’d already begun to doubt that I was right about it. But moreso because it’s amazing to me that Moore seems surprised that we’d come to this conclusion based on the clues we were given. And that it sounds like Daniel may end up being a big loose end. Why bother to introduce his name so close to the end of the saga if you’re not going to make him important somehow?

By: ben

ben — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:02:30 +0000

Just to add a twist to the whole conversation of whether the show over-explaining things or under-explains what we think are “obvious” plot points … I just listened to the podcast to the episode “Islanded in a Stream of Stars.” And in it, Ron Moore goes out of his to state for the record that lost Cylon model Daniel is in NO WAY related to Kara thrace. Daniel was not her father.

D’oh!!!

Moore said he never considered that to be so while developing the story, and didn’t think much about a signifigence to Daniel other than the whole “Cain and Abel” analogy between him and Cavil. But he said in recent weeks he’s seen how fan forums have exploded with the theory that Daniel is Kara’s father and how this whole “cult of Daniel” has formed. So he wanted to set the record straight so people wouldn’t be going into the final episode expecting something huge to made of Daniel.

I for one am extremely disappointed by this!!!

By: Jack

Jack — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:34:52 +0000

I don’t share the complaints about characters explaining obvious things to the viewers, because I feel like I miss so much of what’s being told. It’s RARE that I read a blog on BSG (and I read a few) where I don’t learn something new, or don’t receive another angle to interpret what I’ve seen. It may seem like “dumbing down” to some degree, but a story as complex and grey as this sometimes needs the additional exposition.

I had the distinct impression that Six’s solution to Daddy Baltar wasn’t a nursing home. It seemed to be another hint at how that character has evolved. But I was baffled by the pigeon scene.

The way this episode played, I felt like it mapped out why these individuals were “chosen” to become the leaders that they are. I didn’t make the connection that their burdens made them stronger, but there did seem to be a method to the storytelling.

Yet another detail I’ve missed all this time – Hot Dog is Adama’s son in real life? If that was the purpose of that scene, it was a nice touch, and well-deserved.

By: GeekBoy

GeekBoy — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:55:56 +0000

In hindsight, I’ve actually made quite a few assumptions about those flashbacks that maybe I shouldn’t have. For instance, we’re never told that Adama’s meeting is about decommissioning the Galactica. Or that Six really put Gaius’ father into a nursing home … she may have just killed him. Or that Anders ever really lived the flashback we saw — maybe it was just a dream that Tub Anders was having. In fact, there are so many details left unexplored — like why Roslin recognized the name of the person she was being set up with — that I have to assume some dots will be connected for us in the last two hours, and this truly was just the first part of a larger episode.

By: sandra

sandra — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:50:20 +0000

I also took Lee’s drunken master fighting with the pigeon as a reaction to Zak’s death, considering the only other glimpse into Lee’s past is his dinner with Kara and Zak – it made me come to that conclusion – happiness led to death led to anguish dealt with hard liquor, but that being said, no, there was nothing to indicate it specifically. I took the bird as a reference to the mechanical bird that his brother died in, but I can see how it can be taken as an omen, too. Again, I think it is at this point open enough for people to interpret as they see fit – it may be clarified further on Friday.

I thought this episode was really well shot, directed and acted. The last few episodes seem to lack that good flow that this one had. I loved seeing these characters as they were before the people we know them as now, how much they have changed, into the darker, sadder, angrier and desperate souls of Galactica.

Is it just me or did anyone find it strange that when Laura, after finding out her father and sisters had died, looked at a family photo with all their smiling faces but the mother was completely shadowed out (to the left of the dad)? I may have been seeing things but thought that was weird. Maybe there was no mom at all, as she was never mentioned and I’m just making things up in my head. I’d have to see that scene again.

Jay laughed and laughed at Baltar’s dad – what a kook, and their relationship – awkward.

By: GeekBoy

GeekBoy — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:24:36 +0000

Ben, you mentioned the scene with Hotdog, and what occurred to me there is that it might be one of the only scenes that Edward James Olmos has acted in with his son, Bodie Olmos, who plays Hotdog.

Actually, you’re totally right that it was never specifically stated that Apollo was drunk after finding out that Zak died. That was my assumption based on it being a parallel with Roslin’s story, but it may be wrong. Especially if, as Maggie says, a bird flying into the home is an omen of death to come. It just seemed like he was REALLY drunk, and I couldn’t imagine him getting that drunk just having dinner with his brother, even if he was jealous. But I don’t really know much about his drinking habits pre-Galactica.

By: Maggie

Maggie — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:11:25 +0000

There’s a superstition that a bird flying into your home portends death…that’s what the pigeon probably symbolizes.